Arguing with a mortal is foolish at best. Do they even know what words mean? Can they do anything except what their lord or master tells them to do? You can't learn anything from them because they don't know anything, they can't learn anything from you because they're nonverbal, and even if they did learn something they would be unable to act on it.
Some mortals might rise above, but then they're leftists. They do understand words, but they don't like them. They use fake words, because [fuck you dad]. The leftist evaluates arguments entirely based on what actions it justifies. Who cares if the argument is true, or even makes sense? They may understand some words, but words like [consistency] and [hypocrisy] are beyond them. Why go to all the effort to figure them out? It only restricts what actions they can justify.
Did you notice how farcical this is? Nobody cares about the justifications, yet they mass-produce justifications anyway. If this isn't a colossal waste of time and effort, it's extremely well hidden. The only thing worse is trying to argue a leftist out of the fake justifications they don't care about or even care to understand.
If you truly dunk on a leftist, utterly laying waste to their argument, their poolitical calculus doesn't change. They pick a new fake justification then do what they were going to do anyway.
Before you argue with a poolitician, you first have to demand they prove they care about arguments. And you don't have to do that either, because if they cared about logic or the Truth they wouldn't be a poolitician or anywhere near poolitics.
It's worse than a waste of time. When a leftoid spams their justification, they're telling you what they plan to do. If you wish to oppose them, you know where you need to stand and what tools you'll need while you're standing there.
Argument is not one of the tools. Rhetoric only works when an authority deliberately grants favours to approved kinds of rhetoric. Nothing more than an orthodoxy shit test.
Rightoids can't defeat leftoids only and solely because they don't want to. Normie sadomasochism. As with the leftoids, the justifications come second. Losing was the point, and if you make it difficult for them to lose, that only means they'll try harder and justify more cleverly until they lose as intended.
Taxation is treason. Normies have declared war on you (and on each other). Declare war on them, or be a cuck. The peace is already suspended, the only question is whether you deliberately enslave yourself or not.
[[[High-trust]]] is a joke. You're supposed to laugh. The light side is prey. They exist to be scammed and exploited. Being eaten is what they're for.