There's the guys who design chip fabs.
Then there's the deep blue-collar guys who are nothing but walking search functions for textbooks.
Both called 'engineers' natch. Their degrees don't even look that different in distribution. Some of the best chip fab designers will be oklahoma state grads or whatever.
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