Shame, Always and Everywhere, is Self-Inflicted

"The notion that men should be unbothered and “above it” when insulted is an absurd subversion of masculinity. Peak Yellowstone faux-manliness, really just a cope for modern legal norms. 

"But accepting vile insults would be totally foreign to all of your ancestors."
https://nitter.cz/0xAlaric/status/1734635909969014935

 "In Ref’s saga, his enemy starts a rumor that he is gay. In the spirit of good Christian ethics, he turns the other cheek and does not retaliate. Then his enemy starts a rumor that he is a coward. He goes to his enemy’s front door and kills his entire family, ending his bloodline."
https://nitter.cz/ChevaucheeN/status/1734640002586304736

 

 I see I see. It's manly when all your friends listen to rumours and have no appreciation for substance.

 Definitely something more than emotional incontinence and insecurity. Giving a shit about rumours - making them or listening to them - isn't womanly at all.

 Right right. 

 When someone starts a rumour about you, it doesn't affect your honour at all. The shame accrues to those who start, spread, and believe rumours. 

 Look, it's painfully simple: rumours can't stop you from keeping your promises. No matter what anyone, anywhere, says, you can still fulfill your contracts. Words are wind.
 If I promise you 400 pounds of good steel, and there are rumours I can't deliver, what happens when I deliver 400 pounds of good steel on time? Who is discredited here, exactly?
 The shame accrues to those who attribute something other than wind to unsubstantiated words.

 The manipulation, the trick, is that sometimes, in the modern world, it is a humiliation ritual. Specifically when you're required to respect someone shameful. If your boss believes a rumour, that relieves him of honour, which in turn relieves you of any contractual obligations to him. No honour to the honourless. A Democratic court doesn't see it that way, now does it? The courts wield more than words. 

 The scam: who accepted that job in the first place? Honour is not only in upholding your given word, but giving your word wisely. Don't enter contracts with dastards and scoundrels, i.e. your boss, in the first place. Shameful foolishness.
 You can't kill someone to erase a shame. Shame, always and everywhere, is self-inflicted. Trying to kill someone to erase it only upholds the conclusion: you have a shameful character. You couldn't refute it with actions, you could only refute it by scaring folk into not saying it out loud. They were able to successfully spread rumours because, fundamentally, they weren't rumours, they were facts. Your reputation was harmed so easily because it was an inflated reputation you have not earned and did not deserve. 

 More importantly, if a people had honour to begin with, never mind accepting the job in the first place, they would never have submitted to Democratic courts in the first place. "We gon ban duelling." "I challenge you to a duel." "I as well." Soon: nobody left alive to ban duelling. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

 You have to complain about rumours because you already forfeited your honour. You already abased yourself to womanly rumourmongers. Whining about rumours is, itself, longhoused. Revenge is Sour. 

P.S. The idea is that Christians forgive the first rumour and not the second. The actual communication is that Christians are gay and cannot legitimately refute it.

  Why did anyone believe the rumour that Ref was gay? Because he was, at best, effeminate. Why did anyone believe the rumour that Ref was a coward? Because he was so weak he was afraid of mean words.

 "I hear Ref is gay."
 "Um...are you his wife? Why is this any of your business? Are you gay and you think he's hot, lol? Are you trying to get him to sleep with you?"
 "I hear Ref runs from battle."
 "Are you his warchief? Why is this any of your business?"
 "Are you saying I'm a coward? I've been in all the same battles as Ref. Maybe I ought to prove I'm not upon your body. You know, for science. You hate ignorance, right?" 

 You don't need to kill him. If it's really bothering you, have him rightly declared nithing, and then let nature take its course. 

 (At best Ref and his friends have very weak heads and no sense of responsibility. No wonder he turned to Christianity... Should have started a rumour about his ignorant loutishness.)

 Unless, of course, Ref really is a gay coward. Then it's difficult for these results to obtain. The "ending his entire bloodline" sounds a lot like Christian cope. Revenge fantasy. "Yeah, then I unscrewed the pommel and ended him rightly." Didn't happen. 

 P.P.S. Ancient man laughed at strange "men" trying to start rumours about them.
 You engage in male-caricature massacre fantasies.
 You are gay.