tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5204863782883637837.post3708266592314542493..comments2024-03-27T20:51:11.303-04:00Comments on Accepting Ignorance: Illegal Immigration vs. MuggingAlrenoushttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11119846531341190283noreply@blogger.comBlogger4125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5204863782883637837.post-65065574080853097772012-05-26T15:39:34.955-04:002012-05-26T15:39:34.955-04:00Yes, at least on the arguments presented here, ant...Yes, at least on the arguments presented here, anti-[anti-immigration law] inevitably implies anti-[anti-mugging law]. <br /><br />Perhaps a good pro-side, or pro-[anti-side] argument exists, but consistency demands it look very different.Alrenoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11119846531341190283noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5204863782883637837.post-72173883039428956272012-05-26T15:32:07.225-04:002012-05-26T15:32:07.225-04:00I have no respect for laws against mugging, either...I have no respect for laws against mugging, either. Just let me deal, however I feel necessary to stop the mugging, with anyone who attempts to mug me and I don't care whether you lock up muggers or not. I don't care if mugging is declared to be illegal. <br /><br />Same goes with independent migrants. Unless they are trespassing on privately owned property- not "US Soil", whatever that may be- then I don't care where they were born or what papers they have been issued.<br /><br />If they are stealing or attacking, then their place of birth is not my concern, either. Only the actions that violate an innocent person matters to me.Kent McManigalhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05005964583189815410noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5204863782883637837.post-21033827020729616952012-05-26T15:05:36.886-04:002012-05-26T15:05:36.886-04:00My point is that Caplan's arguments are in fac...My point is that Caplan's arguments are in fact about what you did, by showing that changing it to an action does not create nonsense. <br /><br />E.g, blacks cannot choose to be whiter. Immigrants can choose not to cross the border. If his argument were in fact about a non-freely chosen trait, my version would have sentences like, "Muggers, like blacks, cannot change their mugging because they cannot change their parents." I admit it does flirt with this in the penultimate paragraph, but I bet I could fix it.<br /><br />I want to bring out the legal criteria in particular. You care about what laws should be re: immigration. I utterly disagree. the only good law about immigration is no law at all - either forbidding or demanding they be allowed.Alrenoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11119846531341190283noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5204863782883637837.post-78315205570098644462012-05-26T14:50:30.518-04:002012-05-26T14:50:30.518-04:00Caplan is arguing specifically that who you were b...Caplan is arguing specifically that who you were born (what parents, where) as a moral/legal critiera is bullshit, and it was bullshit on blacks, and it is bullshit on immigrants. <br /><br />Your muggers line is arguing that what you did is also bullshit?Aretaehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15850678936908894274noreply@blogger.com